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 Post subject: Do we need Natural England or " proper engineers"
PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:20 am 
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Had Dunwich survived, it would probably by now be hosting ferries to the Netherlands. There you can see what happens when a government really puts its mind to defending the coastline. Millions live quite happily on land that in places lies 15ft below sea level. There is no talk of abandoning Rotterdam; just great vigilance and superb engineering.

The difference between the polders and our crumbling cliffs and creeping saltmarshes is not that the North Sea is wilder on our side. It is that our Government is tight-fisted on flood defence, spending just £470 million a year on rivers and coasts across the whole country – compared with £9 billion on the Olympics. Moreover, in the Netherlands the business of coastal defence is in the hands of civil engineers, whereas in Britain it has been trusted to a bunch of birdwatchers who see the defence of property as less important than creating homes for warblers.

Either we take Natural England and the Environment Agency off the job or the story of Dunwich will become the story of the whole of the East of England.


This was a quote that was printed in the Times 6th June 08,

Just about says, it all really. If we don't do something to stand up to this Government we might as well just kiss goodbye to parts of the country. We need Engineers, not Natural England and other quangos.


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 Post subject: Re: Do we need Natural England or " proper engineers"
PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:18 am 
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If we were campaigning against a second runway, or an 'eco-village', success would be stopping them doing something.

Our problem here is that were trying to stop them not doing something - in the mean time by default their getting their way. And as we've seen at Happisburgh the longer nothing is done the harder it becomes to do something about it down the line.

As painful as it us for those of use who suffer blight as a result of the publicity - we have to keep the pressure on - we cannot let the faceless bureaucrats get away with it.

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 Post subject: Re: Do we need Natural England or " proper engineers"
PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:57 pm 
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Quite right Jim, we MUST keep up the pressure. Over the past few weeks and even days, I have heard so many people that I thought I could depend on say, "it will never happen" take that attitude and they surely will.


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 Post subject: Re: Do we need Natural England or " proper engineers"
PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:59 am 
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On occasions even the Dutch, who are masters of reclaiming land from the sea and then maintaining it, have to 'bite the bullet' so to speak and realign landwards in order to safeguard their people (note 'people' and not salt marshes etc etc) The only, but most important , difference between their schemes and those proposed by our Government is the fact that the Dutch apply SOCIAL JUSTICE when taking such drastic decisions. Our Government wants to have their pie and eat it - i.e. on one hand they refer us to European Habitat Regulations and their obligation to comply by creating more 'natural habitat' but at the same time they do not apply the European principle of fully compensating those who bear the brunt of such policies. You can't have one without the other and until Government accepts that no decision on coastal defence (or the lack thereof) can be made without applying fair policy and social justice, we have to continue with our campaign to have this implemented. And for all those who think it 'will never happen"....it has , it continues and will do so in the future unless people wake up and act now! There is no room for complacency , apathy or ignorance and the sooner we all realise this , the sooner we will get the desired results.


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 Post subject: Re: Do we need Natural England or " proper engineers"
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I agree Doc, we must have social justice.


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